Introducing your new favourite podcast

Hosted by Lee Healey, alongside his wife Steph, STRONGER THAN THE SYSTEM is an unscripted podcast about life, work, hopes, dreams and what it’s really like to be human in the world today.

There’s no script - it’s just us hanging out, talking honestly about our lives, our work, the people we support, and the systems we’re all trying to navigate.

It’s a real-life stories podcast about the team at IncomeMax, and the people we help, many of whom are battling complex systems and tackling the emotional weight of everyday life.

Some conversations are serious, some are hopeful, and there are both tears and laughs along the way.

From time to time we’ll invite special guests to come and join us - people with stories to tell - but for the most part, it’s just us lot.

This isn’t an ‘advice podcast’.  It’s not about expertise.

STTS is about real people, real conversations, heartfelt stories, poignant moments, a few laughs and feeling part of something. We’d love for you to join us.

The host

Stronger Than the System is hosted by Lee Healey, founder of Income Max. Lee is a nationally recognised welfare expert and an advocate for vulnerable people.

Lee is passionate about helping people feel seen, valued and supported, particularly when life feels overwhelming.

• Lee has appeared on ITV, Sky News, BBC, and Channel 5.

• He works nationally across the welfare, vulnerability, and customer support sectors.

• He has helped over 150,000 families unlock £50+ million pounds of financial support since 2009.

Lee is joined by Steph - wife to Lee, co-founder of IncomeMax and the rock behind the success of IncomeMax. Steph brings her unique sense of kindness, love, cheeky humour and fun to every conversation.

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Who's it for?

This podcast is for everyone. All are welcome.

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Episodes are available exclusively on Spotify.

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